four years ago george bush was president. we --. >>shepard: that reminds republicans of reagan. >>guest: but it reminds most people of bush. so, basically, when obama brings up bush, what happens, they say you are going back to bush. now, they are going back to bush. four years ago bush was president. if you want to have that debate, were we better off then or today? there is no question we are better off today. there is not, it is, this is absolutely no question. >>shepard: all the presidents men and women had a hard time answering that. >>guest: it is a foe tenth -- potent question. no doubt. very unhappy electorate, all the wrong numbers are high as in the bush presidency. president obama's record is unpopular. a potent question. a couple more bad jobs report, we are looking at three more, it will be, you know, it will be very helpful to romney if independents break his way for the challenger --. >>shepard: which they usually do >>guest: right, over a tough economy. it is the case that obama will make. but it is a tough sell, 8.4 percent unemployment doesn't get you re-electe